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After a 2 year lapse of not renewing my residency being over 60 I went to the immigration dept in Lefkosa Tuesday 15 October. I took with me my pink book, usual paperwork 17.5tl in stamps and was given 2 years temporary residency starting from 15th October. I made no visit to the police station beforehand. I was unsure what would happen but had a very helpful lady on the immigration desk and came away very satisfied with my new residency permit.

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Very useful post.

Would you be good enough to confirm what paperwork you took with you?
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Its the financial side I worry about a friend was told recently that she must have and income of 2.500 pounds per month or 1.500 if she owns her home. who has money like that unless you are a retired senior officer or diplomat.

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My mum was a nurse and my dad had an average job with the water board together their pension with the state pension have abive this amount neither where senior officials or diplomats . Any couple who have an average job and pad into a pension will have around this amount


https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... report.pdf

Heres the exact statist s here the average weekly oension after housing costs fir couples is £454 per week . So close to the £2500 mark. But this is after housing so would assume people have a home ir paid rent .

North cyorus has ckearly historically attracted lower ncime retirees as ts been a cheap destination but the reality is this orobablyisnt tye place now fir low income retirees .thers no nhs lifes got more and more expensive here .

To clam the amounts are only for senior jibs or diplomats is simply not true. The popukation has got too big here and the infrasturcture cant cope. The main business here is now us hotels casinos and education . The british expat community is noy a veey small oercentage of the population. If everyone up and left a few places like tim cafe and a few bars would close diwn but it would have a limited effect on the abive businesses . Some oensioners on low income keaving arent going to effect the gdp either . Nobody kniws what the new rules are yet . Fir oeople who moved here on low income its could be really problematic . I can see how its a very potentially difficukt situation and that sone people might be for ed to leave . I truly have empathy for these good oeople . Ive posted now on all of these threads with a different angle to others as i simply dnt believe the trnc goverment is to be blamed here and some facts are beng distorted ie peoples retirement income as above.lets hope that everyone who wants to stay can .

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what an annoying post that is to read, it seems to me if the govt here have any hole in their budget all they do is dream up some other new 'tax' that mainly only the expats pay !!!

TRNC is killing it's old beauty and charm with Vast Casino Hotels, killing off expat dreams with courts that regularly are taking back land purchased by pensionable expats who don't have vast reserves that you imply!

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Answer to your question Posh in Devon. I took Muhtars letter, copy of rental agreement, copy of passport and Trnc bank statements. I had UK bank statements in reserve but was not asked for them.

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techtrader wrote:what an annoying post that is to read, it seems to me if the govt here have any hole in their budget all they do is dream up some other new 'tax' that mainly only the expats pay !!!

TRNC is killing it's old beauty and charm with Vast Casino Hotels, killing off expat dreams with courts that regularly are taking back land purchased by pensionable expats who don't have vast reserves that you imply!
This post seems to imply a vast, coordinated, carefully planned conspiracy by various different legislative bodies.

I have to say that my impression of TRNC Government is somewhat contrary to that

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Deniz1 wrote:Its the financial side I worry about a friend was told recently that she must have and income of 2.500 pounds per month or 1.500 if she owns her home. who has money like that unless you are a retired senior officer or diplomat.
Here again is another third party tale of what may or may not be true. Who told your friend? Were they in a position to say what the rules are before they have been decided? I am not saying your friend is not speaking the truth but I find it difficult to accept these many tales of you must have this much as the BRS who are in talks with the Government say as yet no set amount has been spoken of.

Once more let's not panic until we know there is something to panic about. All this drama just causes others to worry when at the moment nothing is set in stone. Once we all know 'exactly' what the rules are then we can all decide if we as individuals can deal with it and then make a decision based on that as opposed to pure speculation.

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Hate to burst your bubble but how will Cypriots, on basic minimum wage, continue to survive in the future? Even giving minimum wage at 4000TL (£538) they fall somewhat short of the 18,569TL (£2500) monthly income required by non-Cypriots?

I am perhaps fortunate that I have 3 pensions as an income: 25 years military service pension, 17 years Civil Service pension and State Pension as I am over 65 years old. Yet still, after paying UK income tax for which no benefits are received at all, my monthly income falls short of the £2500 "allegedly" required to live here, by £600 a month! I rent, I understood there is no NHS here - or anywhere else but UK - before I came so I pay for all my medical requirements.

Your "stats" are useful but flawed as you have based them on a couple and not on a single person then they do not help much - sorry but the current worry seems to revolve around the amount of "Personal" income and not on a "Couples" income.

Having moved here with the intention of living out the rest of my short life I am now faced with trying to find another country where I can continue to live on a par with the local population. Strangeley, having done some research in this matter I find that it would be cheaper for me to live in the RoC than in the UK and as the RoC is an EU country the laws there actually protect me better than the laws in the UK will in the future. I have no real desire to move South and would rather live elsewhere but, financially, it may still come to that.

TRNC is a wonderful country with wonderful friendly and helpful people in the main, and I will be sad indeed if after supporting this country for many years, it forces me to leave in search of a country where I will be treated in the same manner as the locals are. No complaints - just telling it like it is!
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We went through again yesterday to the South. Sally dropped me off at Larnaca airport. No problem either way, no acknowledgement that things have changed or are changing. We always exchange pleasantries in Turkish at the border. I still maintain that they hold an awful lot of information on that computer and that if you tick the boxes you will be OK.

Things are changing here, I have been reliably informed that Stephen Day and John Hughes-Wilson have been sacked from Cyprus Today, so maybe the days of the Raj are over and post-colonial attitudes in Cyprus are going to have to change. Anyone for tiffin?

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jardap

Thanks for the useful information.
However could you confirm whether your financial status was ok because of a monthly income (say pensions or whatever) or because of the value in your accounts.
When I last enquired they only quoted an amount of income and seemed to be uninterested in net worth.
Sorry, certainly not wishing to pry into your personal finances but without an idea of the financial requirements the other information is useful but not complete.

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All the young lady did was cast a cursory glance over the paperwork then asked if i would like 2 years.
I would suggest that people take a chance and go to the immigration dept with the necessary documents (including marriage certificate if applicable). After all at some stage we are all going to need a temporary residents visa so why not try now. At least it might build a picture if people then post if they were successful.

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jardap wrote:Answer to your question Posh in Devon. I took Muhtars letter, copy of rental agreement, copy of passport and Trnc bank statements. I had UK bank statements in reserve but was not asked for them.
Many thanks. Very helpful. No medical paperwork but the all the other usual paperwork.

Do you recall what the cost is per persons please for the 2 years.

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Don’t forget that the rules haven’t changed yet so the person who renewed surely was using the old rules.

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PoshinDevon wrote:
jardap wrote:Answer to your question Posh in Devon. I took Muhtars letter, copy of rental agreement, copy of passport and Trnc bank statements. I had UK bank statements in reserve but was not asked for them.
Many thanks. Very helpful. No medical paperwork but the all the other usual paperwork.

Do you recall what the cost is per persons please for the 2 years.

Thanks
The cost for 2 years was 897tl

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Bert wrote:Don’t forget that the rules haven’t changed yet so the person who renewed surely was using the old rules.
I agree the rules have not changed as yet but it is worth taking a chance ,at least now i don't have to worry about it until oct 21 and by then they might have made there minds up.

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Hi Jardap.

Have sent you a PM.

B.

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Keithcaley wrote:
techtrader wrote:what an annoying post that is to read, it seems to me if the govt here have any hole in their budget all they do is dream up some other new 'tax' that mainly only the expats pay !!!

TRNC is killing it's old beauty and charm with Vast Casino Hotels, killing off expat dreams with courts that regularly are taking back land purchased by pensionable expats who don't have vast reserves that you imply!
This post seems to imply a vast, coordinated, carefully planned conspiracy by various different legislative bodies.

I have to say that my impression of TRNC Government is somewhat contrary to that
So Keithcaley you don't think the recent new rules on animals, cars, driving licences, visas (temp perm and working) not to mention business , medical and atm charges are not targeted on expats?

My family have lost their property and life savings here due to a vast, coordinated, carefully planned conspiracy but thanks for the wink much appreciated.

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So Keithcaley you don't think the recent new rules on animals, cars, driving licences, visas (temp perm and working) not to mention business , medical and atm charges are not targeted on expats?
Undoubtedly some of them or even all of them are - I never said that I thought that they weren't - merely that as they were imposed by a variety of unconnected entities, that I did not think that they were co-ordinated or connected.
My family have lost their property and life savings here due to a vast, coordinated, carefully planned conspiracy but thanks for the wink much appreciated.
That is a truly terrible thing, and I had no idea - nor, indeed, could I have any idea of the circumstances to which you refer. I also have no knowledge of the specific conspiracy you mention.

Armed with that knowledge I would never seek to minimise or to trivialise your hardship.

I offer my deepest sympathy, and will refrain from commenting further.

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jardap wrote:
PoshinDevon wrote:
jardap wrote:Answer to your question Posh in Devon. I took Muhtars letter, copy of rental agreement, copy of passport and Trnc bank statements. I had UK bank statements in reserve but was not asked for them.
Many thanks. Very helpful. No medical paperwork but the all the other usual paperwork.

Do you recall what the cost is per persons please for the 2 years.

Thanks
The cost for 2 years was 897tl
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Ive mentioned cyorus before . If you are thinking about moving south you shoukd do it soon !As post brexit after a certain period you will have to follow the permanent residency rules ! Buy a property for 300000 euro then put 30000 euro on deposit and demonstrate annual income of 30000 euro plus 5000 euro for each dependant! Thsi is cionsiderablly more than the minimum wage in cyprus!
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waddo wrote:Hate to burst your bubble but how [do] Cypriots, on basic minimum wage, continue to survive in the future? Even giving minimum wage at 4000TL (£538) they fall somewhat short of the 18,569TL (£2500) monthly income required by non-Cypriots?
Well we kind of club together and take it out of ex-pats with 'taxes' and 'dual pricing' and like

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erol wrote:
waddo wrote:Hate to burst your bubble but how [do] Cypriots, on basic minimum wage, continue to survive in the future? Even giving minimum wage at 4000TL (£538) they fall somewhat short of the 18,569TL (£2500) monthly income required by non-Cypriots?
Well we kind of club together and take it out of ex-pats with 'taxes' and 'dual pricing' and like
Ain't that a fact - "yabanci para inekleri"!

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Good one Erol - I will be in touch soon!
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Reyntj, check again, I apply for a Cat F permit as I don't need anything else and anyway, post Brexit I have another year at the worst. But I do agree your figures are considerably more than the minimum wage here or there and that is why they are also not correct. You really do make me feel like staying!!
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Good luck with the category f you do realise you need to buy a new build in excesss of €300000 in a goverment approved development .

Check out these articles here which confirm my incorrect figures.....

https://www.agplaw.com/permanent-reside ... nationals/

http://www.mondaq.com/cyprus/x/817140/I ... gory+F+6+2

http://www.abcpropertiescyprus.com/permit/

Or maybe they all misprinted.....

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Reyntj, All of your URL's are pointed at the Cyprus "Fast Track" method of gaining Permanent Residency. Having followed and paid for the TRNC's continuously changing method of gaining a mythical Permanent Residency for the past 12 years, I have no intention of ever trying to gain Permanent Residency of the RoC by way of a"Fast Track" system that is liable to instant change at anytime. I would therefore - presumably as a Third Country Alien - apply for the Temporary Residence (Pink Slip) on an annual basis, similar to the current but soon to change, system in use in the TRNC and spend another meaningless five years paying the RoC, instead of the TRNC, before actually applying for my Permanent Residency following the normal system as described in: https://savvacyprus.com/investor-immigr ... -residency.

Having spent 90% of my annual income for the past 12 years in the TRNC and having around five (5) times (net) the monthly minimum wage of 2958TL (net) on pensionable income, I consider that I support the TRNC enough to be allowed to stay. However, should the TRNC wish to turn it's country into a land of a few millionaires on one hand and abject poverty on the other, then I shall be forced to leave. I suppose I could return to my birth country of the UK and hold out my hand for all the benefits I could claim, but having spent more of my life living in other countries than there I have no desire to do that as I prefer to be self supporting. There are many countries that are much, much more appealing and cheaper to live in than the UK and it would be my final choice.

To spend my final years in Cyprus, with TRNC being my first choice and the RoC a distant second, would be ideal an I can only hope that it remains possible. Time will tell but it is always Governments that have the final say, the people - those who can vote - can voice an opinion but the Governments are still in control!

I still await your answer to my first question: "Hate to burst your bubble but how will Cypriots, on basic minimum wage, continue to survive in the future? Even giving minimum wage at 4000TL (£538) they fall somewhat short of the 18,569TL (£2500) monthly income required by non-Cypriots?" or is Erols' tongue in cheek reply the real answer?

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waddo wrote:Hate to burst your bubble but how will Cypriots, on basic minimum wage, continue to survive in the future? Even giving minimum wage at 4000TL (£538) they fall somewhat short of the 18,569TL (£2500) monthly income required by non-Cypriots?
So they are saying that their minimum wage is actually less than 22% of a livable income?

In the absence of a monthly income how much have they indicated they wish to see in your bank?

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ETS, therein lies the problem! There is no definitive Government information available at this time - the BRS appear to know nothing and the rest is just rumour and whispers. However, this is the land where rumour and whispers appears to become law at the drop of a hat so to try to keep ahead of the game it is most wise to widen one's choices.

I suppose when the 23rd of this month rolls around there may be some information available but I do not hold my breath on that, meanwhile I look at all options.

For aliens here the big question will always be "You have no sigorta so what will you do if you become sick, how much money have you got?". My simple answer is "I have paid for my funeral plan, my plot in Dhekelia Military Cemetery is already reserved, if I die, then I die" my end is not in my hands but in God's!
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Interesting days ahead.
If their plan is to turn TRNC into Jersey/Monte Carlo I suggest they might want to ease up on the half finished high rises and start to give the place a bit more tlc. I can suggest another 100 essentials they will need after they've completed those.

As my gnarled old granny used to say to me "you can only sh#t with the arse you've got."

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EnjoyingTheSun wrote:Interesting days ahead.
If their plan is to turn TRNC into Jersey/Monte Carlo I suggest they might want to ease up on the half finished high rises and start to give the place a bit more tlc. I can suggest another 100 essentials they will need after they've completed those.

As my gnarled old granny used to say to me "you can only sh#t with the arse you've got."
Not strictly true. Some talk out of it as well.

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I assumed your your question was rehetorical. Yes people here are poor. What im seeing from certain posters is the following:

I dont like what you are saying so its a lie even though these are the facts.
Its outrageous that the trnc dare amend their immiigraion policy to similar levels of the uk and eu countries to control population and illegal workers . How dare they.
We are british and rule the waves and where we go people should roll out the red carpet and give us special priveleges.
We have financed wholly the trnc and are a massive source of income to the trnc without us there would be no tims cafe english bars pork shop or fish and chips . This will be a massive cultural loss to the trnc if poor uk expats are forced out.
Despite the uk expats being a very small proportion of the population in the trnc the governments and its ministers sole agenda is to persecute them and try to get the over 60 s to stump up 400 tl admin fee. This is the only reason for the new immigration rules as the windfall of from this will be a massive bonanza to the trnc coffers .....
its disgracefuk that trnc citizens refuse to do menial jobs and want the better well paid goverment jobs etc. Who do they think they are do they think they are british and like the uk where we import all our labour.
Its also disgraceful that the trnc have opned up all these big hotels universities and construction companies to try to improve their economy and the lives if its citizens.
It was much better before when all the locals where peasants and worked for us in our gardens for tuppence
If poor uk expats leave the trnc they will be killing the goose that laid the golden egg .we are very wealthy and the world revolves around us .

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Wadoonthis is what you said:

Reyntj, check again, I apply for a Cat F permit as I don't ...

My figures where regarding cat f as that what you referred to . Im no experton international residency criteria but from a quick look on google eu countries - in general have a much higher income threshold to trnc for residency.That the trnc needs to control its population and also cherry pick more wealthy residence seems offensive to some people here . No problem if uk and eu countries do it !

No one kniws what the rules are yet there may well be some protection for existing residents . But the attitude from some posters is extremely arrogant .

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Reyntj wrote: Its outrageous that the trnc dare amend their immiigraion policy to similar levels of the uk and eu countries to control population and illegal workers .
To my knowledge there is no access to any welfare for the British so if we can't support ourselves then we have to move on or starve. I would assume that when they come up with a minimum wage figure then that reflects what they believe is enough for someone to live on. To come up with a figure that is 5 times that as the figure an immigrant needs to live on is bizarre.
Reyntj wrote: We are british and rule the waves and where we go people should roll out the red carpet and give us special priveleges.
No just not a total inequality of treatment.
Reyntj wrote: We have financed wholly the trnc and are a massive source of income to the trnc without us there would be no tims cafe english bars pork shop or fish and chips . This will be a massive cultural loss to the trnc if poor uk expats are forced out.
No-one has mentioned a cultural loss. As for income, there are over 100,000 foreign permanant residents living in the TRNC. I would imagine on average that the 100,000 have more spending power than Turkish Cypriots. I’d be surprised if this small economy could afford to lose say 30,000 residents with the equivalent spending power of 50,000.
Reyntj wrote: its disgracefuk that trnc citizens refuse to do menial jobs and want the better well paid goverment jobs etc. Who do they think they are do they think they are british and like the uk where we import all our labour.
Has anyone said this?
Reyntj wrote: Its also disgraceful that the trnc have opned up all these big hotels universities and construction companies to try to improve their economy and the lives if its citizens.
I know nothing about how profitable the universities are and little about construction other than to my layman’s eye you don’t actually make a profit building dwellings, you make the profit selling them. Which seems to be the flaw in their construction industry. As for the big hotels/casinos, they pay minimal tax, don’t seem to hire many TCs if they can help it, don’t pay their electric bill. They import food etc from the mainland and their guests seem generally to be all inclusive, so how much they venture out and put money into local shops and restaurants I would imagine is minimal. I think you will find how much these big hotels add to the local economy will be pretty disappointing.

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Firstly the people on the minimum wage are required as cheap labour many who work in Hotels are given given food and accomodation . Aslo we dont know the figures yet and im guessing that it will be houshold income so for many two people . But the simple rationale for this which i cant undestand why people dont understand is that there are toomany poeple here ! The government has had a meeting and said right we need all the foreign workers on the minimum wage . We have to limit the number of expats here who are residency visa and the simple way to do this is increase the income requirements .so all this argument about the minimum wage is irrelevant . Low paid workers needed - low income expats no thanks! And these are the ones moonlighting as taxi drivers etc so it also prevents illegal workers .

Not in order but waddo made a comment about tcs not doing gardening menial jobs etc

My post about uk expats being a small minority still stands . Your 100000 figure is irrelevant to this ?also i dont know where you got it from .please ex plain?this article from 2017 states the population was 351000 with 78000 guest residents students and workers ! Given that workers and students dont need to meet the new rules and probably make up most of the 78000 ....i refer you to my first point in my other post . I dont like what you are saying so its a lie......how many uk expats are resident here ...its not 100000 is it .......there isnt a group of 100000 expats who arent students or workers here is there!

The inequality bit relates to the loss of the gentlemens agreement and the general arrogance of some posters over a number of threads relating to immigartion. For example we should be allowed to live on the trnc minimum wage because hotel workers do . Sorry not the case the hotel workers are required you are not . The population is too big trnc doors may now be shut for people coming to live here without a higher level of income as per other eu states immigration policy .

Revenue from universitues is in excess if 1 biilon $
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My wifes a trnc citizen and worked in a hotel for 15 years. Many of our friends our citizensand many work in hotels probably most of them .
As for construction when new properties are sold the tax revenues in kdv stoppage etc for etc etc . The director of northernland construction told me when you add it all up taht iver20 % of thesale orice ends up in the goverments coffers . So the taxes and revenue generated Are massive.

There are a few thousand expats residents here your 100000 figure i have no idea where you got this from i think your including students and workers which is daft .it also reinforces my point about arrogance and that some posters about how important they are and what a loss it will be if they leave! There wont bec30000 peopelleaving beacuse there isnt that many expat retirees here to start off with !
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Trying to be helpfull i posted what i hoped would be useful information so it is a shame that it gone off in a different direction.Once more i would suggest that if you have not renewed your residency being over 60 try to do so you have nothing to lose but a little bit of time.

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But the simple rationale for this which i cant undestand why people dont understand is that there are toomany poeple here ! The government has had a meeting and said right we need all the foreign workers on the minimum wage . We have to limit the number of expats here who are residency visa and the simple way to do this is increase the income requirements .so all this argument about the minimum wage is irrelevant . Low paid workers needed - low income expats no thanks!
Too many people? At even the most exaggerated population figure I've seen in TRNC of 500,000 gives a population density similar to the Isle of Man. The question is more are the expats a net contributor to the economy? Undoubtedly yes. They pay their taxes, spend their money and don't over indulge on the infrastructure. As they are net contributors then they make a contribution to enable the government to improve the infrastructure.
It's ok turning a blind eye to people not paying things as car tax because they are poor but Greece will explain there is no long term future in that and what future there is will be far shorter when those who do pay move abroad.

Sure TRNC can go down the route of becoming a millionaire tax haven, good luck with that! I can give them a list of some of the things they need to put in place. I'll give you a few free samples, a better standard of construction, clarity in the ownership of said buildings and shops that sell real Chanel, Rolex etc etc etc. Whether said millionaires contribute as much to the local businesses I have my doubts.
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As for construction when new properties are sold the tax revenues in kdv stoppage etc for etc etc . The director of northernland construction told me when you add it all up taht iver20 % of thesale orice ends up in the goverments coffers . So the taxes and revenue generated Are massive.
Operative phrase is when they are sold. Or maybe even if they are sold. How many half finished buildings would you say there are? What a genius idea, let's build lots of properties and take steps to reduce our population. Not joining the dots there are we?

I suggest you ease off on swallowing the anti British propaganda and maybe read an economics book.

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Revenue from universitues is in excess if 1 biilon $
The TRNC has 1 university in the top 1000 worldwide. Pair that with how recognised the qualifications received from the universities are worldwide and I wouldn't be having those shares in my pension portfolio. I think the ten universities they now have mean they have fallen into the same over supply trap as the casinos have in TRNC.

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