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They are asking the UK to stump up £1.7Billion,and the French & Germans are getting bloody rebates. Bring on Farage quickly, lets be rid of it.

It is certainly more fuel for Farage.

Completely disagree!!
The only chance of exiting Europe is sticking with Cameron who will give the public a chance of voting in\out.
Voting for Farages party will only help Labour chances, and no referendum.
Michael

cjtill wrote:Completely disagree!!
The only chance of exiting Europe is sticking with Cameron who will give the public a chance of voting in\out.
Voting for Farages party will only help Labour chances, and no referendum.
Michael

Agree, Cameron is saying he will not pay, may have to in the end but give him a chance, we do not want Labour again ever.

camoron can not be trusted , the Tory boy has made promises and broken them on immigration, has been walked over by Brussels and is totally out of touch with the man on the street, he may bleet about not paying the 1.7 billion to the EU but has not got the balls to stand up to them. UKIP now speaks for the people, and if you Tory types don't want to see Milliband win the next Election suggest you get on board with Ukip. Credit to the Torys on the economy, but a spineless bunch of yes men will never give the UK what it needs most, LEADERSHIP.

That's an extra 1.7 billion ,we already pay 8.6 billion

Wow and all that money you don't get a heavy duty fence around Calais to keep them all out

That's a big gravy train for them to dip their bread in

Kav

Honestly ? How stupid!..
Bloody grumpy people everywhere..

Yes UK has to pay 1,7 billion... ! All other countrys payed also.. Europe is a community... Try to see other countries as roommates.
Its not about bloody rebates, Germany & France just overpaid to EU. UK paid less.

[quote="Makum"]camoron can not be trusted , the Tory boy has made promises and broken them on immigration, has been walked over by Brussels and is totally out of touch with the man on the street, he may bleat about not paying the 1.7 billion to the EU but has not got the balls to stand up to them. UKIP now speaks for the people, and if you Tory types don't want to see Milliband win the next Election suggest you get on board with Ukip. Credit to the Torys on the economy, but a spineless bunch of yes men will never give the UK what it needs most, LEADERSHIP.[/quote
Well said Makum absolutely fed up to the teeth with these " ten bob millionaires" who sold their houses for top buck and bought cheaply over here, what is needed in the UK is someone with the balls to turn round to the EU and say stick it up your jacksie. The bloody French under De Gaulle never wanted UK in the bloody band of thieves," this having run and hid in Britain during ww2 "pity he didn't live forever. Cameron and Clegg are EU puppets with Merkel and co working the strings. People say no to a Labour government but I would prefer any party rather than 5 more years of this promise breaking Muppets.
This is my clean version!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I couldn't have put it better myself, you two.

Farage can win the next general election, he won't if people don't believe he can. Both Tories and Labour are terrified of the pull he now has over the British electorate as they have nothing left in the tank to counter him.

I think Cameron supporters are missing the point somewhat,... if he does give the public a vote that's all it is "a vote" ?

He has no more power pull the plug than I have so what will happen is we will get the vote and vote out then he will turn to the British public and say something like "I understand your vote but the EU say it is illegal to leave so we have to stay."

That's why EU politicians look so smug on TV because they know we can do jack "ooops" about getting out.

Thank you Gordon Brown for selling this country down the river big style.

While i am totally opposed to the EU and want nothing more than the UK to rid itself of the money go round that is European policy.
An interesting thought has just occurred too me. Will the ROC be seen to have more than their fair share of wealth if oil or gas is found offshore in any quantity? The reason why the EU is asking The UK for more money is because the UK is performing better than the rest of the members in getting out of recession. So if the economy of South Cyprus is to benefit from the oil and gas, then surely the EU will demand their share of the spoils. I wonder how the Greeks will respond to that????????

Geoff1131 - do you really mean the Greeks??? Surely you mean the RoC citizens, mostly Cypriot of long-past Greek heritage.

OK then my last sentence should read. I wonder how the RoC citizens, mostly Cypriot of long-past Greek heritage will respond to that????????

Happy now?

Im happy, thanks

Message 7

I don't really understand the opening line "honestly how stupid etc .?"

Kav

Message 7
Lots of confused people believe the EU is good, the fact they've never had their accounts signed off for years says it all, what the UK joined was a community to increase trade, the EU is now a ship heading for disaster and the quicker we are off it the better. The Torys 2017 vote is to late, we need away now before we are pulled down with the sinking ship.

As our economy starts to recover we have to pay £1.7b so what happens next year if our economy recovers even further will they come knocking for 2, 3 or even £4b ?

As already said we need out and that means NOW.

turtle wrote:As our economy starts to recover we have to pay £1.7b so what happens next year if our economy recovers even further will they come knocking for 2, 3 or even £4b ?

As already said we need out and that means NOW.

That's exactly right turtle .......so very much pays to be unsuccessful as you can budget around that ,then get a rebate .

The amounts calculated backtrack over 20 years ....they realign taking into account three areas.
Wait for it ....charity ,drugs and prostitution ..,fact was watching it today .....I do t now sounds bent to me .

I do t usually vote so really I am bit hypercritical I suppose .
I do t know if I vote ukip and they get in is it a club we can't get out of ?
So do we get more income than pay out ...does any body know these facts

Kav

Whichever way you look at it......it aint dull.
Cameron has a big problem in the form of a by-election at Rochester & Strood, which he really must win to keep credability within his own party. With UKIP currently 1\6 with the bookmakers to win the seat then we must assume he will lose (the bookies know more than all our combined knowledge!!).
Will the Tories then force a vote of confidence in their leader (which he will no doubt win) further damaging the cause?
Will further Tory MPs defect to UKIP and trigger by-elections ?
If so, then watch out for the horse trading prior to next years election.
Michael

fifty five grand a day is enough without asking for more for the greedy Eu for not a lot

55 grand a day we wish,..its £55million a day trucker ?

Kavenkoy wrote:
So do we get more income than pay out ...does any body know these facts
Kav

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe ... .stm#start

No we (UK) does not. Neither does Finland,Luxembourg,Austria,Denmark,Belgium,Sweden,Italy,France,Netherlands or Germany (check net contributions on link above)

By head of population (check net by population in link above) We pay less net than Luxemborg,Netherlands,Sweden,Denmark, Germany and Belgium

However as the link explains there are many way to calculate these numbers.

Weak Camoron gives way to the EU on 1.7 billion payment ,so from his stand last week, the press are now telling us it's a case we will have to pay or we won't get our rebate.. More fuel for Nigel and the UKIP bandwagon and a helpfull hand from the EU for the forthcoming Stroud by election and time for a few more of you blue jobs to jump ship.

So where did you read Cameron has given way, checked the news on line I can't find that. Newspapers do say he will have to pay but none reports he has.

Cameron is on record as saying he will not pay this bill until a proper assessment of this situation has been done.
The EU have to show us that this amount is correct and a full report and methodology of this has been done.

So that means he will pay I guess ?

The Germans run Europe ,what they say they get .
Their economy has halted considerably and the worry is a German recession.

That would be a disaster for the zone ,so they say .
Will the reduction help,of course it will and there is nothing we can do .

Same as immigration figures wanting to change ,merkel says no so it won't happen .

Kav

Bottom line unfortunately is we do not govern our own country, forget the past and the drastic mistakes that have been made, let us think about the future of our country, and the future of our children, the Uk is being ran into the ground by laws being passed by unelected individuals that that have no interest, liking or care for UK citizens. We need to stand up as a nation, be led by people who have the British nations interests at heart, and stop pussy footing about.
As a nation we have stood alone in the past, get shot of the likes of Cleg and these do gooding leftie loons and stand up for good old British values. There is only one answer and UKIP are leading the way.
Goodnight and Godbless.

Nigel Farage

Thatcher accelerated the demise of british manufacturing creating unemployment on a grand scale which has not been recovered and never will be.
No party since has been able to recreate the lost jobs and repair the misery caused.
Germany on the other hand looked after its manufacturing base resulting in it being in a strong economical position.
Why are we constantly blaming Germany?
UKIP will do no more than the other main parties and if we pull out of the EU what will be the consequences??
Who knows?
I don't and neither does Farage !!

And as for 'standing alone" in the past - without the Russians and the yanks we would really be ruled by the Germans.
Get a grip you little englanders and stop making us a laughing stock!!!

Makum wrote:Bottom line unfortunately is we do not govern our own country, forget the past and the drastic mistakes that have been made, let us think about the future of our country, and the future of our children, the Uk is being ran into the ground by laws being passed by unelected individuals that that have no interest, liking or care for UK citizens. We need to stand up as a nation, be led by people who have the British nations interests at heart, and stop pussy footing about.
As a nation we have stood alone in the past, get shot of the likes of Cleg and these do gooding leftie loons and stand up for good old British values. There is only one answer and UKIP are leading the way.
Goodnight and Godbless.

Nigel Farage

Totally agree, also it would be fun to run a straw poll of the expats living in the TRNC on whether they would vote for Farage I for one would most definitely

If you want to leave the EU then the only way is via a Tory led referendum.
Voting for UKIP (and I believe their message) is only a protest vote and will only get Labour back in for another 5 years.

If you cant see the wood-for-the-trees, and honestly believe UKIP has the remotest chance of winning the General Election then snap-up the 66\1 currently on offer with the High St bookies.
Michael

cjtill wrote:If you want to leave the EU then the only way is via a Tory led referendum.
Voting for UKIP (and I believe their message) is only a protest vote and will only get Labour back in for another 5 years.

If you cant see the wood-for-the-trees, and honestly believe UKIP has the remotest chance of winning the General Election then snap-up the 66\1 currently on offer with the High St bookies.
Michael

Totally agree.

Sandman wrote:Thatcher accelerated the demise of british manufacturing creating unemployment on a grand scale which has not been recovered and never will be.
No party since has been able to recreate the lost jobs and repair the misery caused.
Germany on the other hand looked after its manufacturing base resulting in it being in a strong economical position.
Why are we constantly blaming Germany?
UKIP will do no more than the other main parties and if we pull out of the EU what will be the consequences??
Who knows?
I don't and neither does Farage !!

British manufacturing was dead and buried long before Thatcher arrived on the scene....FACT
The only thing Germany did to save its manufacturing is open vast factories in China, something at the time "Little England" would not hear of.

Socialist ideology ruined the manufacturing in this country with outdated and damaging practices... and then blames every bugger else for the mess we are in

Hear , hear, Turtle, but the past is behind us now , not a lot we can do to change that, time is now critical to get things moving in a direction that will get the UK on the right track.
We have heard from the dinosaurs who believe what they read in the press, that the tory boy will will deliver on his promises. More chance of getting a BJ off the pope than that happening, time for change I say..

Labour then Makum?

woodspeckie wrote:Labour then Makum?

Lol